tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3014661972845014530.post3225252943707179450..comments2023-04-08T02:29:08.117-07:00Comments on Angie's Point: Walls Fall Down or Should They?Angie Van De Merwehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3014661972845014530.post-10774658590521491262010-11-06T08:18:18.868-07:002010-11-06T08:18:18.868-07:00Liberty is a value of mine. But, in regards to &qu...Liberty is a value of mine. But, in regards to "faith", it has little to do with religion, or "God"/gods for that matter.<br /><br />The "grounding" of this faith is our Constitutional government, not transcendental truth, mystical consciousness or church doctrine.<br /><br />Liberty means that there is enough tolerance for difference to allow other 'selves' to "be" who they are. But always within the bounds of behavior that is limitrf by our Constitution. The Constituion ideally protects equality, which protects liberty for all. Protection for liberty for all, is equal justice.<br /><br />I don't believe that our government was formed out of a desire or ambition to "rule" or govern others. It was formed to protect others that weren't governing and give the proper balance to and limit of power to government, itself.Angie Van De Merwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12617299120618867829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3014661972845014530.post-73481702483361491192010-11-06T06:57:40.352-07:002010-11-06T06:57:40.352-07:00Angie, a couple of things. One, we make a mistake...Angie, a couple of things. One, we make a mistake when we use the word faith as a synonym for the word religion. The experience of faith (the noun form of the verb believe--at least in the Greek) ensues from being humanly conscious; not from a religion. <br /><br />Let me explain. Our bodies orient themselves to their world through systems they developed e.g., inner ears, horizon lines, and sesnse of up. Human consciousness adds to this a need to orient in a world that is not physicality based but idea based; furthermore, the ideas don't assemble automatically into an orientation, thay have to be selected by the individual human self--itself. Which group of ideas will a self use to create its own orientation? the ideas this self can BELIEVE in, or HAVE FAITH in.<br /><br />This means then, that to act as one's Faith, the ideas that serve as its "ground" have to be cogent and credible to the self; dissonance disrupts the self's orientation to the world (think of personal reports of the disorientation people going through earth quakes experience).<br /><br />That said, when I read your writing about Liberty, it looks to me like Liberty is a central aspect to your own Faith. Am I wrong?Mike Gottschalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03570606130437615456noreply@blogger.com